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  1. #1 Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Review (Spoilers) 
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    I put spoilers in the title to deter those who haven't watched the movie from reading this. That being said, there's really not much to spoil. This movie is SO devoid of plot it's rather sad, seeing as the original Final Fantasy VII that caused so many to flock to the genre of role playing games had a rather good one. The movie lacks character development, explanations, and also is rather cliche and predictable.

    However, I loved it.

    Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children is a series of cool moments, with fight scenes that make Agent Smith's mouth gape in awe. The most beautiful CG in existence compliments all this, accompanied by what may just be Nobuo Uematsu's last real work for SquareEnix. The characters are, for the most part, voiced well, and, for what they are, they're all rather enjoyable. So let's go through the movie, and again, thar be spoilers:

    We get Cloud, which was pretty obvious to everyone. He's got a motorcycle, a slight change in clothing, and a NEATO sword which he can attach all his different swords to. The thing about Cloud in this film is that, as a character, he takes a step back. He's despondent, an enigma, and very much a loner in the first portion of Final Fantasy VII, and then he learns that he is not alone. Apparantly the disease that Cloud contracts causes amnesia, as he learns it all over again.

    We're also introduced early on to our main protagonists: Yazoo, Loz, and Kadaj. Yazoo and Loz are henchmen, essentially, and rather unimportant aside from the fact that they have awesome fight scenes (and hey, like I said, aside from the awesome fight scenes, there IS nothing important in this film). Kadaj is, apparantly, a clone of Sephiroth. Or of Jenova. Or he's been created by the Lifestream.

    To be honest, one of the main problems with this film's lack of plot is the fact that we don't get to care about these villains. When Kadaj dies, we're supposed to feel for him... but where did he come from? What's his motivation? He "feels" Sephiroth? That's not enough. Give these guys an origin. This movie could've done with another hour of setup.

    Aside from that, they're all three very cookie-cutter villains. They kidnap some children (the aforementioned children of the Advent variety), one of whom Cloud and Tifa know (but of course, he's not really explained), turn them into zombies, and then Tifa makes them not zombies. They also kidnap Marlene, who's sole role in the movie is to care more about Cloud and Tifa than her "father," Barrett.

    Tifa's our secondary main character. She begins as a major player in the beginning, taking on Loz (or perhaps it was Yazoo? Again, lack of character development) by herself, and then she falls into the background with AVALANCHE.

    Yes, every member of AVALANCHE appears in some form, even my personal favorite, Cait Sith. Aside from Vincent, however, they all seem to be pretty much cameos. The sad part about this is that most of the fans won't care. They're here to see Cloud and Aerith and Sephiroth and Reno, not Cid and Yuffie and Barrett. The team members get in one good (REALLY good) fight scene, and then they're relegated to the background.

    We're also treated to the Turks, Reno and Rude. Outside of the battles, they're essentially the best part of the movie. Unlike Cloud, they have character, they have emotion. Reno's face has to be the most animated face in the entire movie. They're working for Rufus, who is inexplicably alive following his really amazing death in-game. Rufus' motivations or actions are never really explained, making his return seem rather pointless, another loose end that will probably never be addressed.

    In the end, Cloud fights everyone, Kadaj becomes Sephiroth, and Cloud beats him. Then Cloud almost dies, but Aerith talks to him and he doesn't. Then everyone laughs. The end. Predictable schlock? Totally. But man, them some pretty graphics, no?

    To supplement my point, here are some of the coolest points in the film:

    - Cloud using a limit break (the super Climhazard during the Bahamut battle being my favorite).

    - Cid being the only one other than Cloud to really land any good shots on Bahamut.

    - Rude's glasses. Classic!

    - Rufus's fight scene. Perhaps the one part of the film that had me jumping out of my seat.

    - Loz's ringtone.

    - The fight with Sephiroth.

    - Pretty much any of the fights (which was about 3/4 of the movie).

    Like I said, it's pretty, it's fast-paced, and it is INCREDIBLY fun. It's a really good movie.

    It's just not great.
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    I had low expectations coming into this movie. I hated the idea that they were going to potentially ruin everything they set up in FFVII. I hated the idea that I was so positive that Cloud was going to hook up with Tifa and forget Aerith...Luckily none of this happened as there was little plot to do so with! That said, I did in fact enjoy this movie. The fight scenes were indeed incredible (I'd go so far as to say some of the best I've ever seen) and the pacing was quick. The movie was beautiful visually, oftentimes leaving me in awe as I found it comparable to reality.

    Aside from that, most every character's appearance in this was really just a cameo. Rufus was inexplicably brought back only to ... not really go anywhere...The Turks returned (most awesomely) even though at the end of FFVII they said that the Turks were finished...So yeah. Plotwise, this movie would've sucked if it weren't backed up by the pure quality of the action. But, thanks to said action, I ended up enjoying this movie. It was fun so watch it.
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    Naruto is awesome fight scenes punctuated with boring and annoying character development.

    FFVII Advent Children is awesome fight scenes. Period.

    FFVII > Naruto
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    I think it's impossible for you to go a single post without mentioning your opinion on the quality of Naruto... Oh yeah and to reinforce the Spoilers warning at the top...SEPHIROTH RETURNS!
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    Damn it, all the torrents I've found are overloaded... I shall have to wait.
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    For the most part I agree with Matt. Out of all the moments they could have beefed up on was the background of the Kadaj trio and more on how he becomes Sephiroth exactly..then again it could be me. I haven't played the game in almost a decade so I forgot alot about the game(thats why I started playing it again).

    I will end it by saying this. This is the film that should have been put out instead of the Spirits Within. Far more superior in terms of animation and action. This could have made Square a decent amount of money here in the states. Then again 29.99 for a DVD is a good chunk of change as well.
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    ºforgot about Tifa's Limit break that Dolphin wateva move.. yar i forgot.. ;__; .. *pets Tifa* .. she was sexy for a 3d gal.

    I think the funniest part though.. was everybody helping to lift Cloud into the air.. seriously.. if i had that much strength.. i'd lend him a hand in killing that thing. Even Yuffie.. shot him into the air like she was beefed. *LoL*

    Not much materia was used in the movie =/ .. makes me sad inside.

    *spoilers* .. yar forgot to add that in
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  8. #8 Re: Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Review (Spoilers) 
    The problem is that this film can only possibly appeal to fans. Character introductions, backstory... well, there weren't any. You were expected to know.

    I liked that they didn't waste time with it, because it allowed for them to get into this story much more quickly. I don't like the fact that those who haven't played the game won't have the damndest clue what's going on. But, their loss, really.

    And... I will hear no comparisons to Naruto. These fight scenes are several leagues above.

    I'll back up Joe's statement by saying that honestly those were, quite possibly, the best fight sequences I've ever seen. I sat gape-mouthed at the screen throughout the entire film... even through the "reality-defying" moments. The thought process goes something like this... "Oh come on... that's not even possib... HOLY SH*T!"

    Really, the story was secondary. This is fanservice in it's purest form.

    Fortunately, it's really, really good fanservice.
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    I agree.

    But, seriously, what were the silver haired guys? They're SO fanfiction characters. No explanation at all.
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  10. #10 Re: Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children Review (Spoilers) 
    I have no idea... I tried not to spoil the movie by thinking too hard about it.

    But it'll likely be explained in that backstory they've been posting bit by bit on the Japanese site... if someone ever gets around to translating it.
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