I don't simply see why you could not have put in some more effort into it if you are as professional as you claim you are. Even if the reel could be more than 2-3 years old, it still is not enough time to make you professional enough to tutor others for money. If you have any tips and tricks you wish to share, then great. Don't expect anyone here to pay for it, since I guarantee that there are others on the site who could have taught people the same stuff for free.
I tend to give tips and tricks that I have learned from others over the years, when I hear people are struggling with the same stuff I once did. Being a serious amateur voice actor for about 2-3 years, now, I don't feel like you have anything that you could teach me after hearing some sound clips and looked at some of the credentials, so that means I could just as well compete with you and charge nothing, which makes your idea a bit redundant.
You may mean well, but seriously, you are not that skilled yet. Especially not skilled enough to charge for lessons.
Last edited by Frozen Death Knight; 04-17-2012 at 11:22 AM.
If you want anyone to pay money, you have to sell yourself, and I don't think you have done a very good job at that, at all.
Last edited by Frozen Death Knight; 04-17-2012 at 07:37 PM.
I'm going to ask that a Moderator close and delete this thread as I feel it's starting to get out of hand. I came in here with good intentions, I adjusted things according to comments from the Community, re-issued statements that I made when those comments started getting contested, then re-affirmed the situation numerous times. Now people are coming in here arguing, or contemplating that I'm being unreasonable by demanding money from people when I've completely eliminated the subject of any sort of cost involved.
I'm going to re-word everything and propose it in a new thread, but I'm going to take some time to think about what I want to address and I'll keep any sort of price tag out of it. For now, just close and delete this one as I feel this one is just getting out of hand.
That said, I appreciate the comments from most of you but some of you just took it a little too far, considering the circumstances of what I had done to 'bandage' the situation and assure everyone that, yes, I don't deny I may have been requesting something unreasonable, but at least I tried to amend that mistake.
Sugar coat it any way you'd like, but there's more people in here than just me who are being 'unreasonable'. It just needs to be said. Like I said, I'm going to think about what to do here if I can get a Moderator to close/delete this, then I'll re-post something down the road.
Last edited by Mesden; 04-17-2012 at 08:26 PM.
I agree ^. It's one thing to point out some things from a helpful standpoint and it's another to beat it to death.
Your intentions of being helpful are good and admirable. I think you're doing the right thing by offering it for free and allowing a reputation of yourself in the forum of a teacher and coach to be spread. There's no reason for people to point things out after the fact. And I'm glad you're going to take a different approach to this. It'll be beneficial to you in the end.
But do listen to D-Mac, it is the one thing I need to press on you. The man's extremely gifted and very helpful. He knows what he's doing and is professional. Listen to what he has to say and you're sure to improve. That being said, good luck with what you're trying to do. And I do hope people take you up on the adjusted free skype workshop.
You have not exactly been playing your cards wisely. In fact, you have been quite clumsy, and you have not managed to convince anyone why we should even bother with this. It does not matter if you have dropped the price or not, since the damage is already done, and you're not even trying to convince us to participate, at this point.
If anyone still wants to listen to you after all this, I hope they do learn something useful. I however see no reason why I should even bother. When I first saw this thread, I was in fact interested, but after reading it, along with everyone's responces and your responces, in particular, the ship has already sunk before leaving the harbor.
Last edited by Frozen Death Knight; 04-18-2012 at 07:21 AM.
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