Oh man. I can't stop laughing. Also, I really hope he doesn't mess up The Three Musketeers. He'll ruin the whole musketeers thing for me if he does.
Bloody Hell. Milla Jovovich as M'lady De Winter, and Orlander Bloom as the Duke?
It's gonna be a hybrid of Lord of the Rings, James Bond, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Fifth Element all wrapped up in one. Good god. I heard something from a recent interview, and they said something about Milady working WITH The Musketeers in Venice, trying to steal plans for an airship (a weaponized blimp essentially).
She then betrays them to work WITH The Duke of Buckingham.
This all culminates in a huge airship battle over Paris.
They said it's essentially going to play out like a 17th century James Bond movie.
Anyway, don't mean to go off topic with the talent or hard work thread, but I agree with your comment, John. How is he still making movies? I dunno. But I don't consider ruining a timeless classic and making it epic fail a talent, or has anything to do with hard work. What a waste of time.
Last edited by TehPoptartKid; 11-07-2010 at 01:40 AM.
An instructor of one of my master classes outlined the basics of success in musical performance:
1. Know the right people.
2. Practice religioiusly, listen diligently
3. If you have "talent", then pay attention to number 2.
I agree with him. Sure, I'm "talented" because I've always had a love for music, but I am very familiar getting by with the feeling of not practicing -- it simply isn't enough to keep you in the game.
Last edited by paraparamore23; 11-09-2010 at 05:17 AM.
Talent is a great thing to have, but hard work is just downright honorable.
id have to say opposite to bigT.
hard work is what gets you in the door. hard work is all the footwork, the auditions, the calls, the emails... that comes before people can actually see your skill. substance is what keeps you there. but it's not like you stop working hard. nobody gets a free ride in life.
also the word "talent" sucks. it's an excuse for people that don't want to work hard. "oh he just made it because he's talented so why bother." or "some people have talent and some dont" it's just quitter talk.
FACT: you're not getting anywhere unless you WORK HARD at your craft and increase your SKILL. period. nobody has "natural talent" you can always 100% trace it back to how they grew up, their influences, their escapes. they have always worked on it one way or another.
you could get 1000 "NO"s. but all you need is ONE yes.
don't give up until you've ACTUALLY tried. use rejections to your advantage, try to see what went wrong, that may mean you have to be honest with yourself and if you cant be honest with yourself and increase your skill then you are fighting a losing battle.
There is a big difference between "worked at it" and "put hard work into it." There is such a thing as "Natural talent", it refers to a person being able to pick something up quickly without much effort. It has to do with an upbringing/environment/etc, whatever, but it exists.
I'll use a drumline story as an example. There was three of us in a mutli-tenor line, there was a difficult solo that required a lot of precision and speed, hand control, etc. I have been around drumming and drumlines since I was 10, I was never a hard worker at it, I played of course, but I never put hard work into it. It came naturally to me. I was able to get out the solo with all the stick movements that one rehearsal and had it memorized too. There was another player who had been playing for just as long, practiced way more than I did, was pretty good, but he couldn't get it. He couldn't get his hands to work the way he wanted them too, it took him about 2 months of rehearsals to get it down and memorized. In the end, we were playing the same thing at the same level, but it came much more naturally to me than it did for him.
People who give up because someone else is "naturally talented" are quitters, I'll agree there. But to say no one is "naturally talented" is misinformed.
Certain people can just pick up something and do it good, and they refine it after they got through. While others have to just work 10x harder just to get to that point. There's nothing wrong with it, it doesn't mean someone is better than someone else, it's just an affinity type of thing.
Last edited by Adam; 02-25-2011 at 06:55 PM.
the point is, if your talent arises from your influences and upbringing, that is not natural talent. natural talent is something you are "born with" as they say. I will honestly say I would not know anything about music if i hadn't had the family i did, and a certain teacher in elenentary school.
I wouldn't know anything about computers if i hadn't been on it my whole life. just because it's easy for me to learn these things, it doesn't mean that i have a natural ability to do them, I can easily trace back to my influences that have made me what I am today. and so could you, or anybody else I'm sure.
A quick Google Definition of "talent", as provided by Princeton University:
-endowment: natural abilities or qualities
-a person who possesses unusual innate ability in some field or activity
So everyone is correct. Talent is a natural or innate ability an individual possesses. This can be an ability an individual is born with or developed through practice, and in most successful cases, both. There are some people who are naturally gifted with certain abilities, and some who have to develop them over time.
To address the original question, I honestly think it's a moot point. There are many ways to break into any industry of work; some people have obtained the careers they have due to natural ability and being in the right place at the right time; others have gone through years of training and worked their way up. You can go far either way, but you have to put the effort in or nothing will come to you at all, period.
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