Same Sex Marriges - What's the problem?

[TriPredRavage]

I think you all deserve to know that I read the last two pages of this discussion while sitting on the toilet. Because that is what this thread has devolved into.

God may or may not exist, but I choose God because without God there is no right and wrong. If God doesn't exist I can kill you, rape you ,and rob you poor and there's no wrong in it. Yes society may lock me up or give me the needle for that, but there's no wrong in what I did because we're all just a bunch of animals anyways right? When I tiger kills a zebra, do we lock it up for murder? Of course not! They're just animals, and there's no right or wrong for an animal.

First off, this is the second funniest thing I've read all day. Sure the bible teaches equality and acceptance of others (unless maybe if you're gay that is, apparently, but that's debatable), but to imply that there is no right or wrong, or penalty for commiting such crimes is a little bit of a stretch, considering that this post goes on to mention the very consequences that would be received for taking such actions (i.e. getting the needle, being locked up, etc, etc). Right and wrong are determined by people. We dictate what is right and wrong. Maybe on a personal level, someone would be able to live with their self based on the fact that there is no afterlife punishment in such a case, but that doesn't mean that what they did was not wrong.

If I see anyone else trying to curve it back here though, I won't hesitate to lock it. Keep it civilized people.

I decided to keep it open, don't make me lock it because of spam =[ </3

Second, why HASN'T this thread been closed yet? For the life of me, I can't figure it out. Numerous threads have been closed in the past for far less personal attacks. All that has been accomplished here is a large majority of the people who have posted have made themselves look like arrogant, ignorant jerks on both sides of the argument (not everybody, but a lot of people).

If you want to talk about real facts, fine. Let's talk about real facts (none of this I/you am/are/not Christian talk that is completely overglorified opinioning). Last I knew, the divorce rate was up to 49%. There are countless homosexual couples who have been together for AGES, living their lives together while being loyal and faithful to one another, only being denied the right to be married. Seems to me that those couples have proven themselves more deserving of marriage that 49% of people who actually get married. With marriage rates that poor, why not let the homosexuals get married? At least then SOMEBODY would be getting married (which, I personally do think has had an impact on why legalizing Gay Marriage has taken such progressive steps, and why "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" has been repealed). This would also stimulate the economy, which, I think we can all agree, would be a great thing. Honestly, there's no true reason to say that homosexuals can't get married other than "I say so." (And I mean "I," not "He" or "The Bible." Adam spoke true with what he said before.)

Now everybody shut up and start loving each other either as friends, neighbors, lovers, heterosexuals, or homosexuals already. Enough of this.

[Victiln]

I honestly don't got much new to add to the subject, only this.

Where I live registrated normal out of church weddings thingy were made legal in 89, there were made a big fuzz about it, now nobody seems to mind.

in 05 marriages were made legal, there was a big fuzz about it, now, once again, nobody seems to mind.

It is how the world works isn't it?

[Kei]

Second, why HASN'T this thread been closed yet? For the life of me, I can't figure it out. Numerous threads have been closed in the past for far less personal attacks. All that has been accomplished here is a large majority of the people who have posted have made themselves look like arrogant, ignorant jerks on both sides of the argument (not everybody, but a lot of people).

Why hasn't it been locked? Because I figured people would be mature enough to let it go and move on. Apparently, I was wrong.

This is---sorry---was a topic about what the problem with same-sex marriage was. It's not illogical for someone of a super-religious view point to come in and argue it. It's not an attack, it's a viewpoint, but everyone got so up in arms about it and made him out to be some kind of villain. I'm a gay male, do I agree with his comments? Absolutely not, but he never said "FAGGOTS SHOULD DIE" or anything of the sort.

So, there you go. Success. Thread locked.