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    Quote Originally Posted by KillSh0tt41 View Post
    The only time a producer should sef cast is when theres one character and they dont like any of the auditions that were sent. Then i guess it would be alright to self cast other then that i really dont think its a good idea.
    A good example would be Jercobalt's FMA radioplay and how he held auditions for Ed, but ended up playing himself.

    Oh and watch out, here come the opinion police.
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    Honestly, I don't see the problem with self-casting. Just because they took the role you wanted isn't a reason to complain. If you want to play that role so bad, start your own clip dub and selfcast, or audition for another one. The thought of "let the producers produce and the VAers VA" is ridiculous, as almost all the producers here also VA. I do agree that self-casting a role out of your range is just stupid, though. I wouldn't ever self-cast myself as Kamina in a TTGL fandub, for example, but I might for Simon. Most clip dubs are just for fun, anyway.

    If it's a big project, though, then self-casting wouldn't be so great. I'd recommend holding auditions for that character, and sending your audition along with all the others to a third party and let them choose. Because in a big project, it should be the best it can be.
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    Mostly in regards to, KillSh0tt41.

    I understand your points but this is how I see it,

    I guarantee the majority of the members on the board produce so they can play a favorite character, if they couldn't...productions would probably thin out and the chances your favorite character will come up will be slim.

    So try to think of the cup as half full and don't think that the producers is taking away a chance for you to play the character, because there will always be other chances.

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  4. #104 Re: Producers whos self cast themselves 
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    Quote Originally Posted by River Kanoff View Post
    Who said it was wierd?

    I think the majority of people irked by it were just tired of it being the cause of a poopy production. But in the end, it's their production. Use an alias if that's how it works out. =DDDDD
    Oh, my comment was meant as a "general you" thing and not for anyone specifically. I didn't mean to make it sound like I was zeroing in on anyone here and I apologize for that. I was never known for making much sense when I talk.

    I've heard some think of it as unprofessional and it can be if you eff it up. I think the problem is, there really isn't a right or wrong answer to this, which is the nature of all things regarding opinions. It also varies based on what project you're talking about.

    Personally, I'm of the opinion that it can be annoying (or eye roll inducing), depending on how it's handled, but if they screw up I just think, "Pff, not my problem." It helps that there are so many productions of the same series and things on here. I'm also kind of weird and love watching crappy projects for the lulz. I'm not very nice though.
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    How is self-casting and effing-it-up any different from casting someone who does a crappy job on a role? I think they should be treated and viewed equally...as a teaching opportunity.

    I have self-cast. Lots of "serious," "professional" people here have as well. Wanna bring it up with me or any of them? =P Bring it on.
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    I don't think it's really fair to use yourself as an example, mippa, based mostly on the fact that everything you touch turns into VA gold.
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    Why is mippa any different then anyone else here? Granted she is very talented, but no one person here can make everything they are in sound good. It is a combination of many good VAs and a good producer. If in the process of making a good VA project the producer decides to involve him of herself and the project comes out high quality, then should the self involvement be forgiven, even by the most critical listener? It makes them a good producer with good intuition. Thinking that there is no way a person can voice act in there own project makes you close minded, and you are focusing a little too much on that, ignoring roles in a project that may not be the lead role, but are just as sgnificant and fun. Just move on.
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    I personally think that self casting is fine. The point of casting and auditions is for the producer to find actors who's personal interpretation of the character they try out for either matches their own interpretation or opens their eyes to a new take on the character they may end up liking better. If self casting doesn't take care of that, then the producer either probably shouldn't be producing or has multiple personality disorder. The only kind of self casting I can find to be unacceptable is if a producer casts them self as every character that matches their gender or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mippa View Post
    How is self-casting and effing-it-up any different from casting someone who does a crappy job on a role? I think they should be treated and viewed equally...as a teaching opportunity.
    That's true. There are instances that can make self-casting more amusing if it's handle oddly. However, this is true of every situation you can toss out.

    I've seen plenty of legit shows do it, so I've never gotten the 'it's not professional ever' argument. (Now that I say that again, I realize it's not like professional projects have never cast crappy actors either.) Personally, I don't have the energy to care that much when I see it happen. There are so many projects around that, if you really want a part, you can probably find someone else doing it that hasn't self-cast it. Or, heck, do it yourself! I've been having trouble getting parts, so I'm just sitting down to write a script and voice a character myself. If people don't like it, they can suck eggs. I'll just listen to those who gave it a chance and get some feedback/critique on it.

    ETA: I just thought of something. Some people might be considering it different because, and this is me making crap up, it might remind them of self-inserts? We all know the dreaded self-insert for fanfic. When someone puts his/her sparklypoo self into a fanfic to fall in love with his/her favorite character who falls for him/her instantly, no matter what. Again, this is me thinking (and not at anyone specific), but I'm starting to wonder if that might be influencing some people. There are some instances where I think people are just angry their favorite part is gone from the get-go. Of course, I'm not applying this to everybody. Only some people.
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    I self cast... if you're not happy about it then tough luck. If you think that Iam gonna effing ruin the clip then tough luck again... dont audition in the first place. Fandubs are here for fun, its not like you have to produce something professional everytime.

    Most producers like to self cast because they want to play a certain character... and thats the reason they start an audition page... BAM. So if they didnt want to voice that certain character then there would be no audition page in the first place.

    I have no clue what you guys are talking about... if the producer is doing the mixing then there is nothing to complain about. You should be concerned at how well your voice suites YOUR character, not if the others suit or not... thats not your business. Its all done to suit the producers satisfaction. And thats why you give critiques to people. You dont just go '' YOU EFFING RUINED THE CLIP!'' because its NOT your project to complain about. It has nothing to do with you.


    I personally self cast to test my abilities to voice a certain character... if it all turns out crap then thats nothing to do with anyone. I have fun when playing self casted characters and thats all that matters.
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