Spiderman 2

[Taryn]

Just got back from the midnight showing and...wow. AWESOME MOVIE.

The best thing about this movie is its balance. It manages to weigh action and drama wonderfully to keep one's interest enthralled through the entire film. You have fights and (WONDERFUL) special effects and all that jazz, but you also have a poignant, very real emotional journey for your main character, Peter Parker. He's a superhero, but he's a superhero with fear, doubt, frustration, anger...you name it. He's human.

The whole cast performed superbly, with Tobey Maguire standing out. I always had my doubts about him and even couldn't always believe him in the first movie, but he WAS Peter Parker for this film. Absolutely. Every line, every reaction, every look was Peter. Alfred Molina as the newcomer was excellent. Expected, for me. He IS an awesome actor. And Doc Ock was just a really awesome character with some REALLY FREAKING AWESOME CGI arms. Holy crap, did those things rock. They looked so...REAL. They had smudges and dust and dirt and they were their own characters.

So, yes, I loved this movie. Thought it was better than the first, even. And you can definitely tell where the next film is headed...

Oh, and just one note: thank GOD Peter got his goddamn happy ending with Mary Jane. That poor guy...I mean, jeez, talk about your life sucking. Just every little thing seemed to go against him. The scene where he drops his books in front of his school and everyone keeps stepping on them and running into his head was pathetically hilarious. ^_^;;[/spoiler:913d630de6]

--Taryn

[Katie]

OMGOMGOMG. I am SO angry. I was going to see it opening day, but noooo, my friend Danielle isn't getting back into town until Friday! And she said that she would have me murdered if I went to see it with someone else.

So I have to wait. Damn her...

[Matt Cruea]

Also just got back from a midnight showing. The movie, like the first one, was very focused on having Peter learn a lesson. In the first one, he had to learn ye olde power/responsibility yarn. In this one, he learns how to balance being Spider-Man with Peter Parker, that he can live his dreams and perform his duty.

Also, unlike most sequels, this one built on the first one. You really need to see the first one to enjoy the second one. Screw pandering to new viewers. You have your fanbase, it's huge, pander to THEM. Every single character still around from the first film gets a lot of development (Including Betty Brant, Robbie Robertson, and J. Jonah Jameson, but I'll get back to him later) and the new characters introduced (Doc Ock, John Jameson, Curt Conners, etc.)

Cinematic aspects I noted was some very "Evil Dead"-esque camer movements, especially during the scene where [spoiler:f4393bd4bb]Doc Ock murdered the hospital workers.[/spoiler:f4393bd4bb] The same with the multitude of close-ups and fast zooms that worked incredibly well with the movie. Overall, it had a much faster pacing which I liked. The addition of much, MUCH more humor made the fairly long movie move faster. And, as usual, Danny Elfman's music was superb.

Alright, onto some spoilery bits:

[spoiler:f4393bd4bb]J. Jonah Jameson's enhanced screen time is a godsend to this flick. He deserved it, got it, and it works so well. Simmons portrays the Daily Bugle editor effortlessly, and it's just really, really great how he pulls it off.

Doc Ock is, visually, a much more stunning villain than the Green Goblin. The arms were just fluid and the fight scenes were spectacular. And the train scene... well, not spoiling that, but it's possibly the best scene in the film.

Staying with the villain of the film, he's not the true focus of the movie, which is good. Peter IS the main focus. It's about HIS struggles, be it with Doctor Octopus, Jameson, or even his friends, it's about this special young man's life and how he triumphs over adversity.

Peter's INCREDIBLY bad luck throughout about 3/4 of the movie pretty much makes you want oh so badly to see him win, and you know, sometimes, even I didn't think he'd come out on top of everything. But in the end, he gets his confidence, confronts his demons, helps the villain, and gets the girl.

An interesting sub-plot is Harry Osborne, finding out who Peter is (Along with Mary Jane, Doc Ock, and a train car full of people, but hush hush) and who his father was. People seemed to be getting that this means "Hey, Green Goblin II in Spidey 3." I hope not. Characters seem to be taking different paths here than in the comics. Maybe Harry will realize his father was evil (And we'll get Venom in the third flick. : P)

Speaking of differing from the comics, Peter's revelation of his part in Uncle Ben's murder to Aunt May was shocking to me. This has NOT YET HAPPENED in the comics! Even though May knows he's Spider-Man now, she doesn't know the part he played in Ben's murder. This was a really great twist, and also a nice testament to May's place as Peter's spiritual rock in her reaction to it.[/spoiler:f4393bd4bb]

Overall, this is my favorite film of the year (Kill Bill being counted as one film for last year) so far, and it's likely to stay that way (Though Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow looks fucking awesome).

Go see this. NOW.

I'll be seeing it again next week.

[DJ Sapphire]

Saw the midnight showing last night.

WOW. This movie rocked. I was holding my breath through a lot of it. There's a whole lot that's better than the first one. I'll be seeing it again, and if you haven't seen it yet, go NOW!

I still want to $&%# Tobey Maguire.

-Deej :love:

[ig.]

It struck an excellent balance between its frentic scenes that are vital to communicating its own action and the narrative that the film exists to portray - it fills the gaps between the panels, so to speak.

I recognized the images in the opening credits as work by none other than Alex Ross - good God, I want some sort of artbook/lith collection.

And the Raimi scene was joygasmarific.

[Matt Cruea]

I recognized the images in the opening credits as work by none other than Alex Ross - good God, I want some sort of artbook/lith collection.

Yeah, I noticed it too and then double-checked in the credits. Ross is a fucking God.

[Milly]

TRUE, TRUE, TRUE...

This is THE summer movie....unlike any other movie series it is better than the original....plus Tobey Maguire is sooo cute!!! I especially liked Mary Jane's character as an independent woman, she was awesome especially that part at the end where she's like [spoiler:ea359635be]"Go get'em tiger!"[/spoiler:ea359635be] ...AWWWWW!

It may have changed somewhat from the original series but this change was good. I also found myself always angry becuz [spoiler:ea359635be]Spidey wood never take the damn mask off to show MJ he was Pete....but FINALLY, the important ppl know he's spider-man....i swear if he didn't take off his mask i wood have reached into that screen and done it myself... ^_^[/spoiler:ea359635be]

Doc Ock....is by far one of the coolest villians yet.
DONE and Done...*sigh* Now i'll just wait patiently for Spider-Man 3..... 2006?

PS: That spandex suit really is too tight for Spidey...I liked the visual he gave the audience when he said "It rides up my crotch"...*giggles at something*...

[Amby Leigh]

Going to the 10:45 with my friends tonight.

I CAN'T WAIT!!

And let me just say... all those spoilers are SO tempting right about now. I think I know what's going to happen from watching the previews and compairing them to old cartoons.

SO TEMPTING! MUST RESIST FOR THE NEXT 4 HOURS!

[Katie]

And let me just say... all those spoilers are SO tempting right about now.

SAME HERE. Gaaaah! T_T At least you get to go tonight... I have to wait til freaking FRIDAY! Someone. Please. Shoot me. (With a tranquilizer that will render me unconscious til Friday.)

[Matt Cruea]

And let me just say... all those spoilers are SO tempting right about now. I think I know what's going to happen from watching the previews and compairing them to old cartoons.

No. No you don't.

[Matt Cruea]

Also, wait for the "Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head" scene. Beautiful.

[Tolmek]

A note about Doc Ock's arms. They were not completely CGI. Sometimes, they are a physical suit being manipulated by puppeteers. I think the suit he had to wear with those arms weighed around 150 lbs. (Stuff I rememeber from reading interviews and such.)

[Matt Cruea]

A note about Doc Ock's arms. They were not completely CGI. Sometimes, they are a physical suit being manipulated by puppeteers. I think the suit he had to wear with those arms weighed around 150 lbs. (Stuff I rememeber from reading interviews and such.)

Yeah. Much less CGI than most people think in this flick.

Also, IMPACT WEBBING BGFINBIPSDNISBNGS

[Taryn]

Also, wait for the "Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head" scene. Beautiful.

OMG, I was cracking up as soon as that music started. Hilarious! Cool walk...everything's awesome...TRIP!...crap, glasses... XD

[Ralze]

the best part of that was the freeze frame at the end.....classic!!! I totally loved this movie....of course I'm the biggest spider-man nerd you will ever meet(maybe not ever). great flick......recommend it to anybody!!!

oh yeah not to forget my man bruce campbell's cameo as the snooty usher...tooo funny

[Sukisho]

I loved this one. I thought the first one was actually pretty stupid but this one they did way better.

[Clintykins]

I saw the 12:01 showing last night (my friend got us in free ^_^). I actually liked the first one better than this one, but it was still really good.

[spoiler:2f7912dd6f]I didn't like the hospital scene where the doctors and nurses were killed. I never saw 'Evil Dead', so maybe that's why I didn't like it, it just seemed really corny for the movie.

I also didn't understand the point of the really skinny, anorexic girl who brought Peter cake. The scene seemed irrelevant to me, but whatever. The character was kind of sweet, though. Kinda like a female Peter.

Mary Jane's fiancee has got to be the most boring character in the movie. He had really no personality, but I guess for a somewhat small role like that, it's natural. I did like JJJ and his wife, though. They were funny. ^_^

My favorite part of the movie was Doctor Octopus' arms, and how they manipulated and taunted him, like they were their own character. They reminded me of the Furies from Xena, and how they would circle their victims and drive them insane by taunting them. Ted Raimi and Bruce Campbell, both having recurring roles in Xena, were fun, too. :D

I also really liked Peter's revelation to May about Ben. That was a really sweet, yet dramatic scene. It was also awesome to have May get some action for once. The scene where Dr. Octopus' wife dies is very hauntingly dramatic. I loved it.[/spoiler:2f7912dd6f]

[ig.]

OH, OH, OH. "The Chin"'s cameo was sublime. He owns. So much.

[Matt Cruea]

Agreed, Ig.

Akerin: John Jameson's inclusion was:

A. A nod to comic fans.

B. A way to give Jonah more screen time.

C. Just something else to top on top of Peter (Okay, so she doesn't want to be with me... and she's marrying a freaking national hero ASTRONAUT!? SON OF THE GUY WHO HATES ME?!)

[ig.]

I I sure hope the inclusion of JJJJr is a setup for 3. When explaining a villain with all of Spidey's powers WITH the added benefeits of being sadistic and cannibalistic to Sapphy, I couldn't help but smirk at the possibilities.

IT WOULD BE LIKE ASH vs ASH. FOR 2 HOURS.

[Amby Leigh]

Though all my friends HATED it... I LOVED it!

I'm just gonna block off 90% of my post as spoilers, I don't know what you'd count as a spoiler, what could seem not important but COULD spoil, so.. yeah... lol

There were a few parts that I didn't like.

[spoiler:22393fc48f]When Mary Jane is running through the park in the wedding dress and there is that, light shining in the background, and the birds scatter, I wanted to just hurt some, because it was just SO CHEESY![/spoiler:22393fc48f]

[spoiler:22393fc48f]I think the entire cast of the hospital scene must have been friends and family of the director, because NONE of them could act their way outta a paper bag. "Oh... no... ahh... help..."[/spoiler:22393fc48f]

[spoiler:22393fc48f]The girl that lived across the hall, what was the point? And why didn't she have an accent like the rest of her family? And the MOLE! My friend Cara and I were sitting there during the chocolate cake scene going, "Moley, Moley, Moley, Moley, Moley!" I know, we're awful.[/spoiler:22393fc48f]

And there were parts I liked.

[spoiler:22393fc48f]The part where he jumped the buildings and fell onto the cars was the BEST! Maybe it was because me and Cara were sitting there going "Fall! FALL!" and then he did, and we were like, "Omg! He really did fall!"[/spoiler:22393fc48f]

[spoiler:22393fc48f]I was SO shocked that M.J. didn't get sucked into the machine! Omg! I was betting on that! when it was Doc Ock that died from it... Wow, totally shocked! Alfred Molina, I love you, I didn't want you to die! One of the best villains I've ever seen. [/spoiler:22393fc48f]

[spoiler:22393fc48f]The ending! YES! Justice for the end of the first one! I was screaming at the end of 1 when he gave her the 'let's just be friends' line. Now... oh, YES! People were actually screaming "YES! GO SPIDEY!" in the theater. I was one of them.[/spoiler:22393fc48f]

In conclusion:

[spoiler:22393fc48f]I REALLY liked this one, but I don't think I liked it as much as the first. The villain was better in this one and I loved how it focused so much more on Peter this time around, but I just feel like it lacked something. Still loved it though!
I am really looking forward to seeing what direction Spiderman 3 is going to go in now with so many people knowing about Peter. It's obvious that Harry is going to become the villain, as much as I DON'T want to see that happen, but I still have hope. They did drop hints pointing towards Venom in the first movie. Hopefully, if they are going to have Harry become a villain, they will add Venom as a second one. Two villains! WEEE! Make everyone happy![/spoiler:22393fc48f]

[Immortal Goat]

I heard that they are planning to do 6 movies in all, so...

[spoiler:fa0eb63674]The next movie will focus on Harry's little escapade as the Green Goblin. The 4th, 5th, and 6th movies are supposedly going to be filmed as a continuous storyline. Probably involving Venom and Carnage. That would be the only logical choices. Now that they have introduced JJJ's son, Venom will definitely make an appearance. Venom and Carnage own so much. They are my favorite villains ever.[/spoiler:fa0eb63674]

[Matt Cruea]

Maguire, Dunst, and Raimi have all said "No more than 3." Don't know where you heard about "6 movies," but it's wrong.

Also, just 'cause that's how it happened in the cartoon, doesn't mean John Jameson = Introduction of Venom. He had nothing to do with Venom in the comics, which is what the movie follows more closely.

[Henageshi]

I loved this movie! I saw it yesterday morning.

[spoiler:a7753ca5d2]I seriously thought MJ wasn't going to chose Peter.. SERIOUSLY!! My friend kept poking me saying "She's gonna chose Peter... she's gonna chose Peter!" and I like NO SHE'S NOT! HE'S A SUPERHERO and look how wrong I was.. LOL

Oh yeah and the next movie is supposedly going to have the Golden Goblin in it and Harry's gonna be the villian...gonna be good eh? ^^[/spoiler:a7753ca5d2]

I encourage EVERYBODY to go see it. You won't regret it ^^

[DJ Sapphire]

I thought [spoiler:1b5ed98bbb]the scene with the girl and the cake[/spoiler:1b5ed98bbb] was a great inclusion. The purpose was to show Peter [spoiler:1b5ed98bbb]that MJ isn't the only person in the world, EVERYTHING bad doesn't happen to him, and he's free to make other choices.[/spoiler:1b5ed98bbb]

-Deej :love:

[Sukisho]

[spoiler:35c9ab48bc]
Oh yeah and the next movie is supposedly going to have the Golden Goblin in it and Harry's gonna be the villian...gonna be good eh? ^^[/spoiler:35c9ab48bc]



[spoiler:35c9ab48bc]If Harry's the villian, as he probably will be, it would be the Hobb Goblin as that's who he becomes.[/spoiler:35c9ab48bc]

[Immortal Goat]

[spoiler:a3f47373c2]
Oh yeah and the next movie is supposedly going to have the Golden Goblin in it and Harry's gonna be the villian...gonna be good eh? ^^[/spoiler:a3f47373c2]



[spoiler:a3f47373c2]If Harry's the villian, as he probably will be, it would be the Hobb Goblin as that's who he becomes.[/spoiler:a3f47373c2]

[spoiler:a3f47373c2]Harry becomes the next Green Goblin. There were more than two green goblin, actually, and the Hobgoblin was just some maniac criminal that stumbled upon Harry's old hideout.[/spoiler:a3f47373c2]

[Sukisho]

[spoiler:4330a5fcda]
Oh yeah and the next movie is supposedly going to have the Golden Goblin in it and Harry's gonna be the villian...gonna be good eh? ^^[/spoiler:4330a5fcda]



[spoiler:4330a5fcda]If Harry's the villian, as he probably will be, it would be the Hobb Goblin as that's who he becomes.[/spoiler:4330a5fcda]

[spoiler:4330a5fcda]Harry becomes the next Green Goblin. There were more than two green goblin, actually, and the Hobgoblin was just some maniac criminal that stumbled upon Harry's old hideout.[/spoiler:4330a5fcda]

[spoiler:4330a5fcda]Oh that's right. Well I knew he was one of them and it wasn't the golden goblin, cause that I've never heard of.[/spoiler:4330a5fcda]

[Matt Cruea]

I thought [spoiler:e5f44dd000]the scene with the girl and the cake[/spoiler:e5f44dd000] was a great inclusion. The purpose was to show Peter [spoiler:e5f44dd000]that MJ isn't the only person in the world, EVERYTHING bad doesn't happen to him, and he's free to make other choices.[/spoiler:e5f44dd000]

-Deej :love:

I agree.

Also, stop with the supposedly stuff, people. We have NO information about a third movie. NONE.

In the comic books, Harry Osborne became Green Goblin II, after his father was "killed" (Norman Osborne would come back years later). Harry went very much insane and focused all his energy on Peter and neglected his wife and son. Eventually, Harry tried to kill Peter one last time, but realized at the last second that Peter WAS his best friend and that maybe he wasn't the bad guy. So Harry saved Peter and MJ from the death trap he built for them. Seconds later, turns out Harry dies from an overdose of Goblin formula (He had already had problems earlier in his life with drug addiction, in the form of LSD).

Other Green Goblins include Green Goblin III (Ben Hamilton, Peter Parker's therapist who hypnotized Peter, found out his secret identity, and found a Goblin equipment cache. He was killed because he never found the Goblin formula and couldn't handle the stress of it all) and Green Goblin IV (Phil Urich, nephew of Ben Urich, a Daily Bugle reporter who was in the Daredevil movie, found a cache of Harry's weapons and was accidentally bathed in Goblin formula. He went partly insane, but also became a hero. He retired after his one and only costume was destroyed). Currently, the only Green Goblin is Norman Osborne.

[still_standing2004]

I just saw this movie last night... I really loved the visual effects... awesomeness...


[spoiler:7402e7ace6]Is it just me or did Mary Jane's hair style change after the car flies through the window?[/spoiler:7402e7ace6]

[Sukisho]

Also, stop with the supposedly stuff, people. We have NO information about a third movie. NONE.


Actually there is a small amount of info on the 3rd movie out now and that is that the 3rd movie will be released on May 4th, 2007.

[Matt Cruea]

Where do you get your information?

[Sukisho]

http://movies.yahoo.com/upcoming/bytitle/

[ig.]

*points at Alien 5*

Hee hee.

[Ralze]

yeah that 6 movie thing actually isn't THAT wrong. However, it all depends on how each sequal does. I mean hell they made 4 supermans..and look at the batmans. So it is possible. And from what I've heard Raimi would love to do all the spidermans. I mean he might change his mind....but he said that he was such a huge fan he would love to do them all. Anyway......good clarification on the Goblin stuff Matt I'm impressed!!! As far as characters in the 3rd movie.....nobody has any clue....everything is speculation.

[Matt Cruea]

Raimi recently said in an interview that he wouldn't go past 3. Sadly.

But I'd rather them keep it a trilogy, anyway.

[Ralze]

hehe well I guess he changed his mind then........


man that sucks he's the main reason those movies are so great...IMO

[DJ Sapphire]

I think that after 3 movies, the quality would really start to decline.

-Deej :love:

[Katie]

I think that after 3 movies, the quality would really start to decline.

-Deej :love:

Yes, definitely. Look at Batman... >_>

I actually liked Batman and Robin when I was in like, 4th grade. But that was because I was obsessed with Alicia Silverstone. Clueless =ed my guidelines for life. rofl

And I just saw the movie. OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG. ORGASMX1000000000!!

It was just... so... AWESOME. T____T

My favorite scene HAD to be the one with the New Yorkers on the train carrying Peter. Kinda clichè, and yeah, a little campy, but it still gave me shivers all the same. Then again, every scene where Pete had on the costume, but not the mask = perfection, IMO. Could be because I'm a horrid fangirl of doom, but whatever. All must admit the boy is damn fine. The more rips in the costume the better. More scenes without mask in 3, plzthx!

"He's just a kid! He looks about the age of my son!" <333333
[/spoiler:0fd654beb3]

I'm going to see it again with my cousins when they all get into town. Then I'm going to buy the DVD when it comes out. I'm getting the whole trilogy, no matter what.

And I remember reading a while back that Spider-Man 3 was due out in theaters November 2007. I'm glad to hear that either the information was incorrect, or they moved it forward. Spider-Mans make such a great summer flick. *dances around* Tobey, you shall be the father of my children!

[shadowsvoice]

kickass movie, but they cant end it until we see Venom and Carnage.

[Matt Cruea]

I hope they never, EVER do Carnage.

Venom should be done like the one in Ultimate Spider-Man, if any of you have read that.

[Matt Cruea]

Here's the Alex Ross art from the opening credits.

He's a GOD.

http://superherohype.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?direct=Spider-Man/Spider-Man_2/Movie_Stills&img=

[JesseCox]

just some thoughts, all in spoiler tags of course..

1. [spoiler:7e066919b0]Is is me or did WAAAAY too many people find out about Spidermans secret identity...like everyone did... and as a HUUUUUGE Spider-man fan, I can think of only 3 times people found out, and I think the only girl was Gwen Stacy (Peter's first girlfriend thrown off a bridge and killed by green goblin *which I think was the inspiration for the Mary Jane/kids in boxcar scene in Spiderman 1*), but I'm pretty sure they melded her and Mary Jane into 1 character. But a note on the gwen stacy death thing....indeed Spidey's revenge is to impale the goblin like he did at the end of the first movie...but in classic comic book form Norman reappears later :P[/spoiler:7e066919b0]

2. [spoiler:7e066919b0]BAH! I know they are going to bring back Green Goblin for Spiderman 3...but please get rid of that awful mask!!! Also do you really think gobby could carry ANOTHER spiderman as villian? I think fans would want more..and I think I see how they set it up...
Doc Conners was a "sorta main" character in the movie, he eventually becomes the Lizard. The Lizard is basically like the "hulk" of the spiderman world. Doc Conners can't control it and although he doesn't want to cause harm he does. Also Spidey doesn't want to hurt him. This would be great, as Gobby could manipulate Lizard...and Spiderman wouldn't want to hurt his good friend...then of course the great reveal that goblin is indeed peter's friend!! wooo ^^[/spoiler:7e066919b0]

3. [spoiler:7e066919b0]I'm still not satisfyed 100% with Ock's death...it wasn't very fitting of the like the arch nemesis of Spiderman... (even though some of you insist it was Venom :P)[/spoiler:7e066919b0]

[DJ Sapphire]

I hope they never, EVER do Carnage.

Venom should be done like the one in Ultimate Spider-Man, if any of you have read that.

I thought Carnage would make for a really good movie... he's such a tough villian, and he just KILLS.

-Deej :love:

[SatansLittlePenguin]

Best parts of the movie, Bruce "Don't call him Ash/Elvis" Campbell (best actor EVER!), as the jackass usher! And Stan Lee, as the random guy!

Oh and my favorite scene was where J.J. Jameson was about to admit Spider Man was a good guy, only to have Him steal his suit back. *L*

[Matt Cruea]

Gwen Stacy NEVER found out Peter's identity in the comics before her tragic death. People who HAVE found it out include: Aunt May Parker, Mary Jane Watson, Norman Osborn, Doctor Octopus, Curt Conners/The Lizard, Eddie Brock/Venom, Cletus Cassiday/Carnage, Kaine (Clone), Felicia Hardy (Black Cat), Daredevil, Captain America, Nick Fury (And pretty much all of S.H.I.E.L.D.), Dr. Strange, Luke Cage, the Fantastic Four, Wolverine, Thor, Angel, the Puma, Chakra, Mephisto, Uatu the Watcher, Chief Examiner, Nate Grey/X-Man, Judas Traveller, Gwen Stacy Clone, Thanos, Nightmare, Jessica Carradine, Ka-Zar, Jeannine Goodbe, Andrew "Paunch" Pauncholito, Stunner, Spindrifter, Madam Web, Mendel Stromm the Robot Master, Bounty, the Sentry, Ezekial Sims, Charlie Clemmens, Kraven the Hunter II, AND THESE ARE JUST THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STILL ALIVE.

Among the dead, those who knew Peter is Spidey include: Ben Reilly (Clone of Peter), Timmy Harrison, The Burglar/Uncle Ben's Murderer, Bart Hamilton/Green Goblin III, Professor Miles Warren/The Jackal, Harry Osborn, the Chameleon, Seward Trainer, Capt. George Stacy, Scrier, Carrion I, The Beyonder, Tanya Anderson, Spidercide (Clone of Peter), Robotic Versions of his Parents, Thousands of Clones, an Aunt May imposter, Ranger, the Stalker, the Thousand, Shathra the Spider-Wasp.

I hope we don't get Green Goblin II in the next film or the Lizard. The Lizard has never been more than a B-Level villain for Spidey. Mysterio would work better. The Green Goblin is his arch-nemesis, and Doc Ock is probably the number two trouble-causer in Peter's life... so I dunno. Venom just works.

[Autumn]

OMG!

I really really really loved this movie, it was great... I loved the special effects, and the portrayal of the characters, just the whole she-bang-bang...

Lol, she-bang-bang...

Anyhow... It was rather comical when

[spoiler:9c0e0d5135]The crowd in the train carried Peter on top of their hands.[/spoiler:9c0e0d5135]

Me and my friends all laughed at the same time and the guys behind us said to shut up! Lol!

The villain was great, but [spoiler:9c0e0d5135]I cried when he died at the end with the big giant sun-thingy![/spoiler:9c0e0d5135]

Hehe, but the funniest thing was that, I just couldn't help myself and kept leaning over to Amber and saying little funny comments on certain part of the movie.

[spoiler:9c0e0d5135]Like in the part where MJ says "I've always been standing in your doorway..." I said, "Boy, that must be getting old." [/spoiler:9c0e0d5135] Amber couldn't stop laughing! Lol

But really, this movie made me cry a lot. I get over-emotional sometimes. Enjoyed the comical relief though... hehe...

I've never really been a fan of Spiderman, but I can't wait for the third one... [spoiler:9c0e0d5135]Harry: My dad was an evil supervillain? MAYBE I SHOULD BE AN EVIL SUPERVILLAIN!![/spoiler:9c0e0d5135]

Maybe they put subliminal messages in the movie...

GO AND WATCH SPIDERMAN 2 IN A THEATER NEAR YOU NOW!

Hehe, love that movie. Missed the very beginning though! -_- We were late.

[SatansLittlePenguin]

Wait I know! They could just through a whole new twist on it, and make Harry into the Hobgoblin!!! It would kind of work... OK so I'm just trying to spare my self from looking at another Green Goblin...

Oh and Matt, I think Venom would rock! But only if Spiderman WAS Venom! Black Spiderman ruled!

[Matt Cruea]

Oh yeah. If they do Venom, a movie-fied black costume Spidey would be amazing.

[Katie]

Hehe, but the funniest thing was that, I just couldn't help myself and kept leaning over to Amber and saying little funny comments on certain part of the movie.

[spoiler:25beb06cab]Like in the part where MJ says "I've always been standing in your doorway..." I said, "Boy, that must be getting old." [/spoiler:25beb06cab] Amber couldn't stop laughing! Lol


Amber is very easily amused.

[JesseCox]

"Thanos"

man I love that guy...
oh well that's waaaay off topic.

[Autumn]

Amber is very easily amused.

You don't know the half of it.

[Ralze]

i don't see how they could do it with only 1 movie....but if they could make a movie adaptaion of maximum carnage.......wow....i mean....come on!!!

[Immortal Goat]

I hope we don't get Green Goblin II in the next film or the Lizard. The Lizard has never been more than a B-Level villain for Spidey. Mysterio would work better. The Green Goblin is his arch-nemesis, and Doc Ock is probably the number two trouble-causer in Peter's life... so I dunno. Venom just works.

I don't think they would include Mysterio in the next movie for one simple reason. He was in the most recent video game adaptation of the movie. If they were going to do that, then the game companies would have absolutely nothing to do for the next one. And since they have some kind of liscencing agreement, I don't think they would do that. They wqould bring in all new villains. (Hope it's Venom and Carnage...or at lease Venom)

[Stray]

And just imagine what the SFX would be like with Venom... That'd be like, the greatest effects in a film.. ohhh yes..

WE WANT VENOM!

[SatansLittlePenguin]

OK every one is saying they want Venom, which is good, but many of you (with the acceptation of Matt and a few others) are forgetting that you need many events to occur to reach that result. So IF they go the Venom road, this is how I predict it will go for the 3rd movie.

1st they all ready introduced J.J.'s son, and that's a good thing. Now for the 3rd movie they could start with Jameson Jr. blasting off into space. Then cut to the antagonist for the movie (but not necessarily the man villain) the new Green Goblin (he has to be in it, other wise the movie’s fans will get confused) and how he is watching the shuttle’s launch. Pan left to (hmm lets say...) the Lizard (for 2 reasons. #1 I don't think he has been used in a game yet, and #2 he would add another level of sub-plot). Where well have the Green Goblin giving the Lizard Instructions on when, and where the shuttle will cash land (thanks to a preplanned pumpkin bomb surprise!) upon its return voyage. When this happens, the Lizard is to go and retrieve some random space trinket (blah, blah, blah more sub-plots) from it. Then we flash back to the shuttle landing on such, and such place (blah, blah mission accomplished). And a strange black puddle will find its way abroad the shuttle. Fast forward to Spiderman swinging through town, where he "happens" the pass a TV with the local news. Only to see (dun, dun, dun...) the shuttle is going to cash land! Thus Spiderman goes and save the day. Then from no ware the Lizard shows up and runs of with THE RANDOM SPACE TRINKET! Spiderman try’s to stop him, fight ensues, Spiderman losses, gets knock into the shuttle, casing the shuttle to fall into the water, and trap Spiderman inside. Black puddle shows up again, Spiderman adsorbs it. Thus giving Spiderman new strength and saving Spiderman’s life (not going to get to technical hear...). Then you could pretty much take the movie where ever you want from there. But by the time the end of the movie roles around. Spiderman will free him self from the Symbiot, well good out Eddie finds him self on the receiving end! And that would be how the movie would end. Leaving us with a brief but tantalizing view of Venom, for Spiderman 4! It’s the only way we could get to see Venom. Because the story behind Venom is a movie by it’s self.

But yah, that’s just my view on it... wow this my longest post ever on this board...

[Stray]

And quite the post it was.

Makes perfect sense, that it does.

[Matt Cruea]

Here's how I see Venom going down, and it'd be based on Brian Michael Bendis' great "Ultimate Spider-Man" series. So, if you're even planning on reading that book, I'll put it in spoiler text:

[spoiler:051463341e]Basically, the plot is that Peter finds some tapes that belonged to his late father, who was a scientist. It's family movies and shows a young Peter playing with another young boy at a picnic. The Parkers (Richard, Mary, May, and Ben) are eating with the Brocks, who are also scientists. Young Peter is playing with their son, Eddie, who is slightly older than Peter.

So, not remembering his playmate, Peter sets out to find his lost friend. Using Google, he easily finds him and goes to meet him at his college (In this book, Pete's still in high-school, and this would have to be changed for the movie). They reminisce for awhile and Eddie shows Peter something special, the project their fathers were working on before they all died in a plane crash together: A special polymer that can stretch and change shape that could be used for space exploration or other such purposes. It's called "Project: Symbiote," and Peter is pretty thrilled, while Eddie is sort of uninterested.

Peter and his friend Gwen Stacy (Could be changed to MJ for the film) go eat lunch with Eddie and Peter has to go stop another supervillain (The Shocker, who would also work well for a movie). So Pete leaves and Eddie tries to make moves on Gwen, not stopping his advances when she says "No." This reveals Eddie's violent and malevolent tendencies.

Meanwhile, Peter actually gets defeated by the Shocker, and Pete tries to make his way, his mask torn off, back to Eddie's dorm, since it's so close. Instead, however, he goes to the lab, and the symbiote slowly seeps out (There are little visual hints throughout the story that it is alive). It covers Peter's battered body, giving him the black costume, and suddenly he feels good as new. He goes out and puts the shebang on the Shocker and a few other criminals, finding himself with enhanced strength, agility, and near-invulnerability (He takes a machine gun to the chest). However, it also seems to be affecting his mind, as he almost beats a random criminal to death, so he rids himself of the suit with Doc Conners' help, revealing his identity in the process.

Eddie, meanwhile, finds the symbiote missing and is angered at Peter, his rage problems showing. He follows the trail left by the symbiote to Conners' lab and beats the doctor. He then finds Peter, lying unconscious, the red and blue Spidey suit still half on him, the symbiote on the ground. It overcomes Eddie and Venom runs.

In the end, Spidey and Venom have it out in a massive battle, with Venom getting totally exploded in the end.

The movie would have to be a bit more padded, but the easy origin of Venom is right there for the taking. No space needed.[/spoiler:051463341e]

[Matt Cruea]

Also, Penguin, Green Goblin, Lizard, AND Venom all in one film? Ugh.

[Immortal Goat]

Here's how I see Venom going down, and it'd be based on Brian Michael Bendis' great "Ultimate Spider-Man" series. So, if you're even planning on reading that book, I'll put it in spoiler text:

[spoiler:bda824e2ea]Basically, the plot is that Peter finds some tapes that belonged to his late father, who was a scientist. It's family movies and shows a young Peter playing with another young boy at a picnic. The Parkers (Richard, Mary, May, and Ben) are eating with the Brocks, who are also scientists. Young Peter is playing with their son, Eddie, who is slightly older than Peter.

So, not remembering his playmate, Peter sets out to find his lost friend. Using Google, he easily finds him and goes to meet him at his college (In this book, Pete's still in high-school, and this would have to be changed for the movie). They reminisce for awhile and Eddie shows Peter something special, the project their fathers were working on before they all died in a plane crash together: A special polymer that can stretch and change shape that could be used for space exploration or other such purposes. It's called "Project: Symbiote," and Peter is pretty thrilled, while Eddie is sort of uninterested.

Peter and his friend Gwen Stacy (Could be changed to MJ for the film) go eat lunch with Eddie and Peter has to go stop another supervillain (The Shocker, who would also work well for a movie). So Pete leaves and Eddie tries to make moves on Gwen, not stopping his advances when she says "No." This reveals Eddie's violent and malevolent tendencies.

Meanwhile, Peter actually gets defeated by the Shocker, and Pete tries to make his way, his mask torn off, back to Eddie's dorm, since it's so close. Instead, however, he goes to the lab, and the symbiote slowly seeps out (There are little visual hints throughout the story that it is alive). It covers Peter's battered body, giving him the black costume, and suddenly he feels good as new. He goes out and puts the shebang on the Shocker and a few other criminals, finding himself with enhanced strength, agility, and near-invulnerability (He takes a machine gun to the chest). However, it also seems to be affecting his mind, as he almost beats a random criminal to death, so he rids himself of the suit with Doc Conners' help, revealing his identity in the process.

Eddie, meanwhile, finds the symbiote missing and is angered at Peter, his rage problems showing. He follows the trail left by the symbiote to Conners' lab and beats the doctor. He then finds Peter, lying unconscious, the red and blue Spidey suit still half on him, the symbiote on the ground. It overcomes Eddie and Venom runs.

In the end, Spidey and Venom have it out in a massive battle, with Venom getting totally exploded in the end.

The movie would have to be a bit more padded, but the easy origin of Venom is right there for the taking. No space needed.[/spoiler:bda824e2ea]

That has to be the worst rendition of the origin of Venom ever. :x

[Matt Cruea]

As long as it has nothing to do with space... GOD, PLEASE DON'T MAKE ANYONE GO INTO SPACE IN SPIDEY 3. DON'T MAKE THE SYMBIOTE COME FROM SPACE, EITHER.

Spider-Man is really science-based stuff. It makes more sense than "Hey, there's an alien planet of symbiotes and Spider-Man's the first person ever to come upon them.

It'd be like having the next X-Men movie have Inferno in it.

[DJ Sapphire]

I'm totally against space too...

-Deej :love:

[Immortal Goat]

Spiderman wouldn't have to go into space for it to work. Like I said earlier, they could go the rout of having John Jameson bring it back. It isn't THAT far fetched that a creature like that exists. In an infinite universe, there are infinite possibilities, and infinite probability.

[Matt Cruea]

I'm just against bringing space or demons or magic or stuff into the Marvel movies (save Fantastic Four/Blade/Dr. Strange). Why have the symbiote have ANY connection to space when you can continue the science motif going on?

Just like you don't need the Shi'ar at all for a Phoenix story in X-Men 3, you don't need Venom coming from space for Spidey 3.

[Immortal Goat]

Well, they can't do the Eddie Brock thing the way you described it. He was already mentioned in the first movie as a photographer for the Daily Bugle when Jameson was asking for a decent picture of Spiderman.

[Matt Cruea]

And Peter was mentioned as actually working for Dr. Conners in the first movie. What's your point?

[Immortal Goat]

My point is that for continuity's sake, they couldnt have peter "just realize" that he's been working right next to his best buddy from childhood.

[Matt Cruea]

Sure they could.

Also, Eddie Brock doesn't have to be the "Brock" mentioned in that one throwaway line in the first film. It really doesn't matter if they have Brock in the third film and he's not a reporter. That's just nitpicking.

[Sukisho]

I'm just against bringing space or demons or magic or stuff into the Marvel movies (save Fantastic Four/Blade/Dr. Strange). Why have the symbiote have ANY connection to space when you can continue the science motif going on?

Just like you don't need the Shi'ar at all for a Phoenix story in X-Men 3, you don't need Venom coming from space for Spidey 3.

But all that stuff existed in those series, so they'll probably bring them in anyways depening on what they do with future movies.

[Matt Cruea]

Lotsa stuff has changed from the comics to the films. No reason they can't change more.

[Sukisho]

Well that's true.

[DJ Sapphire]

Yeah, they changed to organic webbing, and that's a pretty big change (although I've seen the pics from where they were gonna use the other webbing). I don't want space AT ALL... ewww.

-Deej :love:

[SatansLittlePenguin]

But my story had little to do with space... I mean you would see the shuttle take off, maybe see Jameson jr. on the news report and then a shuttle falling from the sky. You would not even see space.

All so Mat’s story dose work, but he is missing one big thing. You can’t just ignore the new Green Goblin. People would get confused. That and you can't use the Shocker, as he was in the first game.

Further more, Matt there would really only be the Green Goblin and the Lizard. Venom would just be a snippet at the end. And it would work, for the Green Goblin would just be a puppet master, and the Lizard would be his puppet... Spiderman would find this out, save Doc. Conners, and go deal with Green Goblin. So we would really only see the Green Goblin in the odd scene, and there would never really be any more then one villain at any time.

[DJ Sapphire]

I don't know... I don't think the GG/Lizard scenario is enough good movie material. I think that if they have them, they'll add more.

-Deej :love:

[Matt Cruea]

Uh, the games don't matter at all.

You can ignore Harry's revelation. There's nothing that flat out STATES that Harry will become GG2. All we know is he found his father's stash. But did Harry say "Well, now that I know my father was totally evil, guess I should be too!" What if this causes Harry to undergo a change of heart towards Peter?

There's not going to be a Spider-Man 4, so why prepare for it?

More than one villain, even if they never appear together, is a horrible idea. The movie should be focused on Pete and his struggles and not make the villains the star. This is where the Batman series failed.

[DJ Sapphire]

I don't think they take the video games into consideration when making the movies.

-Deej :love:

[Taryn]

Ugh, doing more than one villain is a deathtrap of quality. Did anyone WATCH the Batman franchise?

[MetalMan5000]

Would the fact that Venom/Carnage/Black Cat/etc are on DC and the Spidey/Green Gob/etc on Marvel effect anything? I may have those reversed or wrong completely. Just something my friend brought up while discussing the new movie a while back.

If the movies don't go far enough, rent the original Spiderman (not movie based) on any console that has it(PS, Dreamcast, N64). It covers the storylines of all the characters very well, I thought.

[Zero]

Would the fact that Venom/Carnage/Black Cat/etc are on DC and the Spidey/Green Gob/etc on Marvel effect anything? I may have those reversed or wrong completely. Just something my friend brought up while discussing the new movie a while back.

Venom/Carnage/Black Cat/Spidey/Green Gob are all in Marvel comics.

If Venom is in the next movie, Peter Parker would have to wear the black costume first. You see, the symbotic alien costume attached to Spider-Man first, thus getting his powers and improving all of his attributes.

It was also taking control of his body, at times he was crime fighting in his sleep. He used the suit for a little while (because he didnt know it was alive) then when he figured out it was manipulating him he got rid of it.

Then it attached to Eddie Brock and gave him synthetic spidey powers.(The suit copied spider-mans powers) Eddie Brock is Peter Parkers photo journalist rival and he hates Peter Parkers guts for ruining his Career. You'll hear them mention Eddie Brock in the first movie (him and his bad photographs of spider-man) The suit told him everything about Spider-Man/Peter Parker so he knows everything.(Did I mention Spider-Mans spider senses wont work on Venom? That alone makes him 10 times worst)

Venom is Spider-Man's toughest rival and he has upper hand all the time with one exception...the symbotic alien costume is still attracted to Peter Parker.

I think this would take a whole movie to explain, because the cartoon had to have 3 episodes to explain everything. Maybe even 2 movies. But I think they're just going to use Green Goblin again.

Spidey Fact: The Symbotic costume can change forms into different costumes (police/fireman/armani...anything) Which is one reason why Peter kept the suit for so long, that and he never had to clean it.

[Katie]

My 14-year-old cousin told me that the Venom costume was like, robotic or something (not alien), and that Peter got it from the future or something (???) and abandoned the costume because the New Yorkers thought he looked evil in black. Is the boy reading some Chinese bootleg of Spider-man, or are there just so many different stories behind Venom that all of them are basically true?

Anyway, screw the space thing. Ew. And my cousin's insane time-travelling theory. Also, multiple villians is corny and lame. (ESPECIALLY if they team up...) I trust the screenwriters, though. They did Smallville. And uhh... Tom Welling is hot? No, but seriously... if anyone can make Venom work, they can.

[Clintykins]

Ugh, doing more than one villain is a deathtrap of quality. Did anyone WATCH the Batman franchise?

Look at Batman Returns. It had Penguin and Catwoman, and it didn't suffer from the degradation of quality (although I do admit that Batman Forever and Batman & Robin did).

[DJ Sapphire]

My 14-year-old cousin told me that the Venom costume was like, robotic or something (not alien), and that Peter got it from the future or something (???) and abandoned the costume because the New Yorkers thought he looked evil in black. Is the boy reading some Chinese bootleg of Spider-man, or are there just so many different stories behind Venom that all of them are basically true?

Anyway, screw the space thing. Ew. And my cousin's insane time-travelling theory. Also, multiple villians is corny and lame. (ESPECIALLY if they team up...) I trust the screenwriters, though. They did Smallville. And uhh... Tom Welling is hot? No, but seriously... if anyone can make Venom work, they can.

Yeah, he got the HK bootleg... yeah, Tom Welling is hot.

-Deej :love: