My Brother

[Ashley Keen]

Racial Stereotypes are fun for the whole family though! the whole ethnicity even!

XP Is your brother *really* racist or just a joker?

[still_standing2004]

Racial Stereotypes are fun for the whole family though! the whole ethnicity even!

XP Is your brother *really* racist or just a joker?


I'm sure he is racist because he said he

"wished all Japanese, Black, etc. people would be locked in an airplane and have it bombed..."


He's f***ed up.

[Anonymous]

Shoot him with a shotgun.

It'd be appropriate in the world news headlines, I think.

[DJ Sapphire]

I'm racist because of affirmative action. May the best man win.

-Deej :love:

[akurah]

I swear my brother is racist.

He hates blacks, hispanics, japanese, chinese, all them but americans...


This is why I hate him, what the hell did any of these people do to rain crap on his parade?

I'm a racist. I'm not proud of it, but I'm not going to lie about it either. I HATE Indian men (not native americans, but men from India). I've never hated any ethnicity up until now, after moving to California and having several nasty experiences with Indian men that make me want to tell off any Indian man who has the "audacity" to approach me. I don't, I try to be nice, but my experiences with Indian men have been so consistantly negative no matter what I do. The ONLY exceptions are third or later generations of Indian Americans/Brits. My general rule of thumb is if their accent is anything but pure British or American I should do my best to avoid them as much as possible. I'm also not the only American born and raised women who feels like this--almost all the women I know feel the same way because Indian men treat us either badly, like sex objects, or they stalk us.

Yes, I said stalk. I met an Indian man once, ran into him in front of the coffee shop. He asked me for coffee, and since it was right there, I figured what the hell. We talked for awhile, exchanged numbers, and I politely told him I needed to go because I had errands to tend to.

The fucker followed me to the bloody grocery store. And he bought me a bottle of wine. Nevermind the fact that A) I'm not old enough to drink and B) I don't like alcohol in the slightest. Then he followed me home. I managed to get him to leave, and the next day? He came knocking on my door, and when I wouldn't answer, he called. And called. And called. When I finally answered the phone, I told him to leave, I wasn't feeling well, and he was acting all like, "Oh my god, I didn't mean to insult you, please forgive me! I'm so sorry, please forgive me!" Just go the fuck away. And he left a bottle of VERY EXPENSIVE perfume on my doorstep as a gift to me.

He called occasionally afterwards and consistantly left messages, but I never answered or returned any calls (God bless caller ID). Unfortunately, I ran into him again at Mitsuwa when I was grocery shopping. He just couldn't comprehend that he creeped me out, no amount of apologizing could fix it, and he really just needed to go the fuck away before I call the store's security or maybe even the cops, if he dared follow me out of the store.

I have no problem with Indian women, regardless of if they're immigrants or have been here all their lives. The children also don't bother me.

[Anonymous]

I can agree with akurah. I think everyone's a little racist. If your not, you're a saint or you've been brought up in a box.

[Pamela]

.. I think I've been brought up in a box o_o..

[Matt Cruea]

I hate niggas an' kikes and wops an' fuggin' spics an' honkeybitches an' myself an' everyone else, yo.

Man, if this were anywhere else other than the VAA, this post would've been ten times more offensive.

[Angelina]

All that Akurah said. Yes.
I had an encounter with this asshole Indian man today, who had the audacity to brush his finger against my breast. I wanted to kill him.

...

-Angelina

[ClymAngus]

I don't have a problem with races, I have a problem with people. I don't care however the hell you wrap erm up, a tosser is a tosser. Now social conditioning and ethnic background may create a higher chance of one pedal powered, brain driven flesh machine being bitchier to another. Blanket judgement doesn't really get anyone anywhere.

You may want to ask your Bro what makes Americans so great. What does he define as American? Actually don't bother, you can't tell these people. They don't want to listen.

All misogynists must hang. :twisted:

[Matt Alan]

I live in Alabama.

Which I hate to sterotype, but most of what people say about Alabamians being prejudice, is true. You name, and most people here are racist against them. I grew up in a VERY racist family.

But somehow, I'm not racist at all.

I honestly believe we let ourselves become racist from family/friend influence, and our own experiences with people who don't look exactly like we do. I've been lucky enough to never have any experiences bad enough to affect me like that.

And on a side note....I cracked up at my family reunion when most of the family were horrified to discovere for the first time that one of their, "Precious little girls" had a black child.

[Henageshi]

I hate it when people are racist... and I don't mean like how everybody might be racist a little bit I mean people who just flat out hate blacks, mexican's and such. It's just not fair to them as people..

And I COMPLETLY understand about the hwole Indian men thing.. but ANY man could do that. Whether they be black, white, asian or anything else.

I think I can actually say that I'm not racist at all...

[akurah]

I hate it when people are racist... and I don't mean like how everybody might be racist a little bit I mean people who just flat out hate blacks, mexican's and such. It's just not fair to them as people..

And I COMPLETLY understand about the hwole Indian men thing.. but ANY man could do that. Whether they be black, white, asian or anything else.

I think I can actually say that I'm not racist at all...

Yes, except that for me, it has been consistant with Indian men. I've had a few nasty experiences other ethnicities but they had always been singular events. They've never been "singular" events with Indians.

[Ralze]

Yeah.....I don't think I'm racist....I'm a big believer in the people not the race. However, that being said I've been known to let a couple of bad remarks slip out from time to time.....but I think everybody is guilty of that.

[Ashley Keen]

I would like to propose a boardwide oath, everyone stand, place your left hand on whatever book you deem most holy. Christians, grab your Bible, Muslims your Koran, and Agnoistics reach for the TV guide, now everyone repeat after me:

I, *your name* hereby swear that, regardless of color, race, creed, ethnicity, gender or national origin I will reserve the right to discriminate against stupid, annoying or offensive people.

XD very good, you may resume prior activity ~.^

[Jenna]

Akurah is right about the Indian men, they have no respect for women at all. They are still like cave men. I would like to be proven wrong but sadly it has not happened yet.

I was looking for a flat for my final year at university with five of my housemates and we found a place right near the uni. But when I met the landlord I got a really creepy vibe from him. He was Indian, lived next door and kept eyeing up my housemates. Okay so he wasn't the only reason we didn't accept the house, to be fair it was a **** hole. However I have learnt to trust my intution.

I say If you have come to live in a new country you should damn well respect the people already living there. Shock horror, this may actually mean having to change and adapt. If you don't want to, go somewhere else.

I mean in the news recently (well there are always stories like this) was this story of this islamic girl (I think she was Islamic, like I said there have been so many stories like this) who was living in England who's parents would not let her go to school unless she could wear a full length dress rather than the school uniform. The amount of press coverage devoted to this story was incredible... This girl probably will never get a decent education because the school refused point blank to let her wear this dress that would cover her completely from head to toe. Did the parents think how this girl is going to get the shit ripped out of her if she is the only one in the whole school dressed that way? Nope.

Even if my parents are devout jedi knights, I wouldn't ask the school to let me come to school dressed like a jedi knight complete with a light saber would I?

Sorry I have gone a bit off topic. It is just an issue that gets me fired up!

[Leon]

I must speak on this....

Being someone from an often maligned minority group, I really dislike it when people automatically assume things about and treat others with hatred just because of their pigmentation or ethnic background. I can't tell you how many times I've had to put up with people's stupidity and abhorrance just because they think that I'm either a criminal, a thug, or a buffoon. The old saying goes, "You can't judge a book by it's cover", and that's mostly true. Unfortunately, there are still enough people perpetuating these ugly stereotypes to ruin things for others. I can tell you I've had bad experiences with people from almost every ethnic background, many from my own, so I understand why some people may have apprehensions about certain people. However, I can only speak for myself, and I refuse to say that I hate everyone just because they look a certain way.

Though, I honestly get into moods where I dislike all humans, regardless of skin color...

[Jenna]

Well in the area I was living in Bristol, white people were the minority group! You never hear that much in this country about racism towards white people from ethnic minorities despite the fact that it extremely prevalent. White people are always painted as the perpetrators.

The experiences Akurah described are examples of racism towards her as a white girl, but everyone immediately hones in on the fact that a minority group was mentioned.... poor indian men. :roll: so Akurah becomes the 'racist'. I don't blame her in the slightest for feeling the way she does after what she went through, that is proper scary having someone follow you home and stalk you like that. Nobody deserves to be treated like that, whatever their race.

I am going to be sexist and racist now lol, and say that men will probably never understand what it feels like to have people's eyes on you or derogatory comments made when you walk down the street. It doesn't even matter if you are wearing sexy clothes or not, or if you are amazingly beautful or average looking, you still get the comments even in the day time. And in my experience they rarely come from white men.

[Maeko]

Indian men, they have no respect for women at all.

Huh. Gee, I wonder why one of their highest hindu Gods is a female, and not to mention that one of the greatest women Prime Ministers of India was a female as well.

Should I feel insulted?

There is garbage in every race, but that does not mean you should make the assumption that the rest of them are like that too.

You will find corrupt people all over the world. Third world, First-Class, hell fucking everywhere, but that does not mean that just because someone is from this specific race and fucks up, then the rest of them are all the SAME.

We say “Every human is the same/ equal.” and we type it out with relative ease, but what is it really?

For the most part I feel that we understand it in principal only.

From my perspective I have noticed, people still have problems acting that out, or even trying to accept it. Even I do.

It's something humanity is still in the process of learning. Until then lets all fight like crazy barbarians and hopefully kill each other off. =)

[Milly]

Okay woah, woah and WOAH!!!

I'm sorry but I FIND THIS EXTREMELY RACIST....im sorry but this ruins my whole impression of the VAA boards.....i never knew that many of you felt this way.....PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE!!!!!! My best frend's dad is Indian and he wears a turban AND he is the coolest and funniest dad EVER...aside from my own of course (luv my daddy).....okay maybe some "men" can be pre-historic BUT NO ONE shood judge an entire race or even "indian men" because of their experiences. I mean us women aren't exactly saints......god, i think everyone that is too ignorant to accept other ppl, are "caveman-like"........

gosh, just reading throo this thread has really hurt me, a lot.....maybe it's just cuz not many of you have experienced a successful diverse society...i mean up here in Canada, we've got more different cultures mixing together than like anywhere......and i've seen it for myself that the US lacks in diversity....less than Canada atleast.

I love everyone, im not a saint and nor do i live in a box (which is a bunch of bullshit).....i think that everyone that can't look past materialistic things such as race, needs to grow up.

well that's all. geez.....

[Matt Cruea]

The US lacks in diversity? Sorry, you're talkin' about the melting pot, baby. We're the most diverse country in the world, which would EXPLAIN the racism. I think your view on THAT was kind of shallow as well.

If I'm not mistaken (Though I easily could be), the turban is from the Middle East, not India. But, like I said, I could be wrong.

Anyway, you can't let people's opinions offend you, especially when they state it as their opinion and not as fact. It's akurah, Angelina, Jenna, et al opinion that Indian (That should be made more clear. When akurah was first talking about this subject in her LJ, I thought she was referring to "Native Americans"... I hate that term) men are blahblahblah. They never said they thought it was fact. Let 'em think what they want. As long as no one gets hurt, hey, who cares?

Just don't bomb any churches, burn any crosses, or throw a brick through any windows.

[thunderstormgenesis]

I can agree with akurah. I think everyone's a little racist. If your not, you're a saint or you've been brought up in a box.

I've been brought up in a box then. *huggles friends from Russia, China, Japan, every state in the US, Iceland, Poland, Denmark, Germany, South Africa, and husband from the Phillipines (hope i spelled that right -_- lol)*

[Anonymous]

Argh, this is gonna be tough to explain...

German people seem to have an immense hatred of the French. This is bad, because my grandfather is French, and my dad liquidated my German birth certificate, forcing me to use my "American" name...which is three French names linked together.

The day after this was done and one of my teachers announced the alteration to my peers during class, a boy I'd always been friendly with turned around and asked if I was French. I explained that my father's father was, indeed, from that ancestral backround. Before I could say any more, he told me he hated me and refused to talk to me anymore.

He kind of DOES talk to me now, only it's teasing. And it doesn't really bother me when his little groupies join in, because chances are that they've never met a true Frenchman before and are basing their taunts on a war that occured between Germany and France about 500 FUCKIN' YEARS AGO.

Really, that's why I don't have any prejiduces. They ruin friendships and families. Besides, I move around too much to dislike a certain group of people. (And for the record, I hate the COUNTRY of Finland, not the people.)

I understand others having slight prejiduces against a certain ancestry after bad happenings with them, such as Aku's romantic avoidance of Indian men, but I am STRONGLY against violent bias. The KKK, skinheads, and groups of that sort tweeg me. I cannot handle SERIOUS (and note "serious", since joking is just that: joking,) slurs against another race; I either become very abusive to those around me or I simply leave the speaker's presence.


I can agree with akurah. I think everyone's a little racist. If your not, you're a saint or you've been brought up in a box.

Actually, I always thought the opposite: that "living in a box" would make a person lean more TOWARDS racism. In that scenario, a person is exposed only to certain ideas, i.e the ideas of their family, friends, and neighbors. And, in many cases, a person who is raised entirely in a predominantly black community (such as Winchester, Virginia) may feel uncomfortable suddenly passing through a predominantly Italian community (such as Jeanette, Pennsylvania).

Just a thought! <3333

And instead of throwing bricks at your fellow board members for the above statements, please show some maturity and IM me. You know who you are. <3

[Matt Cruea]

Shut up, you dirty fucking Jew!

[Anonymous]

Shut up, you dirty fucking Jew!

::primps signature::

[Matt Cruea]

;_;

[Anonymous]

;_;

::posts censored version::

[Matt Cruea]

EDIT HER SIG. NOW.

[akurah]

Okay woah, woah and WOAH!!!

I'm sorry but I FIND THIS EXTREMELY RACIST....im sorry but this ruins my whole impression of the VAA boards.....i never knew that many of you felt this way.....PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE!!!!!! My best frend's dad is Indian and he wears a turban AND he is the coolest and funniest dad EVER...aside from my own of course (luv my daddy).....okay maybe some "men" can be pre-historic BUT NO ONE shood judge an entire race or even "indian men" because of their experiences. I mean us women aren't exactly saints......god, i think everyone that is too ignorant to accept other ppl, are "caveman-like"........

gosh, just reading throo this thread has really hurt me, a lot.....maybe it's just cuz not many of you have experienced a successful diverse society...i mean up here in Canada, we've got more different cultures mixing together than like anywhere......and i've seen it for myself that the US lacks in diversity....less than Canada atleast.

I love everyone, im not a saint and nor do i live in a box (which is a bunch of bullshit).....i think that everyone that can't look past materialistic things such as race, needs to grow up.

well that's all. geez.....

I'm sorry we hurt your delicate feelings. I never claimed to be proud of my racism (in fact, I claim the contrary), but I'm not so naive or stupid as to pretend I'm not. I'm also not so naive as to not realise that cultural heritage has a very HUGE impact on peoples' behaviors, and Indian males, as a whole, have a cultural upbringing that causes them to typically treat women in a fashion that I simply cannot stand. Yes, I do judge Indian men as a whole. But you know what? I also give the majority a chance to prove me wrong.

One of my good friends is an Indian male. He wears a turban as well, has a beard. I think he's a Sihk? I forget the word. He doesn't know of my dislike in general for most Indian men because he's got no reason to--he doesn't treat me like the rest have.

As for not experiencing a diverse society? Honey, I live in San Francisco. It doesn't get much more diverse than that.

Take off your rose colored glasses, child.

[GenericGothBoy]

Just lock him in a room with all those none-americans. See what happens.

You can't do that he'll catch our work ethic, and get off his lazy ass and actually mow the lawn!

[Anonymous]

Okay woah, woah and WOAH!!!

I'm sorry but I FIND THIS EXTREMELY RACIST....im sorry but this ruins my whole impression of the VAA boards.....i never knew that many of you felt this way.....PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE!!!!!! My best frend's dad is Indian and he wears a turban AND he is the coolest and funniest dad EVER...aside from my own of course (luv my daddy).....okay maybe some "men" can be pre-historic BUT NO ONE shood judge an entire race or even "indian men" because of their experiences. I mean us women aren't exactly saints......god, i think everyone that is too ignorant to accept other ppl, are "caveman-like"........

gosh, just reading throo this thread has really hurt me, a lot.....maybe it's just cuz not many of you have experienced a successful diverse society...i mean up here in Canada, we've got more different cultures mixing together than like anywhere......and i've seen it for myself that the US lacks in diversity....less than Canada atleast.

I love everyone, im not a saint and nor do i live in a box (which is a bunch of bullshit).....i think that everyone that can't look past materialistic things such as race, needs to grow up.

well that's all. geez.....

It's aboot time you threw back a logger and calmed down a bit, eh?

Wait was that racism or stereotyping?

[Matt Cruea]

Neither. "Canadians" aren't a race, they're a plague.

[Milly]

okay, i guess i did get carried away there........racism really scares me

akurah-> i guess with ur bad experiences maybe u have a big reason, and the fact that ur not proud of ur racism makes it easier to believe..... Also i think u mean ur frend is "Sikh", they are commonly mistaken for hindus/muslims...

but i still don't get what u mean by indian men being raised to treat women as if they are less than them.....now doesn't that relate to a whole new topic of how ur parents raise u?

and for the love of the beaver....plz don't start up 'aboot' Canadians, lmao....O_o;;

[Angelina]

Neither. "Canadians" aren't a race, they're a plague.


GASP!

[dJeu]

gosh, just reading throo this thread has really hurt me, a lot.....maybe it's just cuz not many of you have experienced a successful diverse society...i mean up here in Canada, we've got more different cultures mixing together than like anywhere......and i've seen it for myself that the US lacks in diversity....less than Canada atleast.

So, couldn't you now be termed racist against America?

Stop hiding behind your country, and there's more to Canada than just Toronto.

And if you didn't want anyone here to start up "aboot" Canadians, then you shouldn't have brought it up, and displayed it as some magic badge of honour that you were lucky enough to have been born there.

[Matt Cruea]

You can't be rascist towards another country. You can be fascist or agressively patriotic.

[ClymAngus]

I'd expect someone from Georgia to say something like that.

[Ralze]

hey i take offense to that :P






not really

[Henageshi]

georgia's cool! .. a lot of my friends live there! LOL ^^

[Matt Cruea]

I'd expect someone from Georgia to say something like that.

I'd expect someone from England to act arrogantly towards Americans. : P

[Sadsiren]

I think what I've said in the "Where You Stand" thread still sums up my suggestion.


In an ideal world, we'd all be happy and tolerant, but the human condition makes such a thing unlikely. Stereotypes exist for a reason...some people sadly fit and perpetuate them, and some of course dislike such stereotypes. Think what you want, just don't exert your hate on others. *Hate crimes* are wrong.

My experiences with Indian men have been pleasant (I sometimes say East Indian to clarify that I don't mean Native Americans). I will admit having felt uncomfortable around some African Americans and Hispanics...but I remind myself that the actions of the one don't always represent the actions of the many.

Just because a coin lands on heads each time after flipping it several times does not mean the odds are no longer 50/50. The same can be said for anyone of any race. There's always that chance for a good apple or a bad apple, no matter how often you end up with one or the other.

[Matt Alan]

o.o; Why isn't there any potshots against ze stupid rednecks?

*Alabamian*

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I had a racist experience tonight. I woke up around midnight because I have a wonkey schedule and there was no water or food in the house, so I went across the street to pick some up. At 2 am, there is NO ONE in a Dominics and maybe about two people working in the entire place and you're lucky if you see them.

When I finally did find someone who worked there, it was these two mexican guys, and I felt kind of apprehensive as I was walking around getting my stuff because...*shrug* two guys and a little girl isn't always the best combination.

But then there were these other two blatently white guys working there and I almost felt more relieved that they were there, even though that just ment there were now FOUR guys and myself.

So that was pretty bad of me, especially since in my life time I've only ever gotten molested at by white guys. Except that one crazy black kid in that motel. But that's another story.

So yeah. Woo. Danae's racist, spread teh word :O (I think it's more that I'm just generally afraid of most guys period, but okay :P)

[ClymAngus]

Thank you gentlemen you've helped me prove a point. Look exactly at what I said. I'd expect someone from Georgia to say something like that. What am I 'actually' saying there?

Matt from Georga did say, "You can't be rascist towards another country. You can be fascist or agressively patriotic.", it's a statement of fact.

I could have said that about any group from any country, I would expect someone from Scotland to use the word 'yes' on occassion, which I believe some of them have said at some point.

You thought that I was implying a racist ideology, when in actual fact it was more infered, there are other meanings that can be infered from the same statement, mostly innocuous.

My point is, we are hard wired to look for racism, no one asked for clarification, a preferred reading of the statement was taken and people reacted accordingly. As I thought you might. It's very easy to cover someone with the blanket term racist, it means you don't have to think, or understand the reasons why they think the way they do.